[Ciimplementer] selective/elective questions

Chen, Ye (yc5x) yc5x at eservices.virginia.edu
Thu Sep 3 00:38:02 UTC 2015


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From: Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>>
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 6:32 PM
To: "'Cohen, Sascha'" <Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu<mailto:Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu>>, Ye Chen <yc5x at eservices.virginia.edu<mailto:yc5x at eservices.virginia.edu>>, "'ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:'ciimplementer at medbiq.org>'" <ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>>
Subject: RE: selective/elective questions

Thanks, Ye and Sascha. We would prefer to keep clerkships as separate entities, and just title the parent sequence block Electives or Selectives. That course should be required, using the XML tags to show the number required,
Yes, that is exactly what I am doing

but the individual sequence blocks would be optional. Depending on the SB, there might be additional levels of nested sequence blocks.
Here is my question. For the individual sequence block, we did tag it optional.My question is whether we also should   tag it
<ClerkshipModel>rotation</ClerkshipModel> ?
Because this selective runs  in the format of  2-4 week clinical rotations.Students in a subdivison of
medicine working in the inpatient or outpatient setting learning while
taking care of real patients.
Those events instructional methods either Clinical Experience-Inpatient or clinical experience-Ambulatory

Does that make sense?



Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Association of American Medical Colleges
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From: Cohen, Sascha [Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu<mailto:Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu>]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 02:38 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Chen, Ye (yc5x); 'ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:'ciimplementer at medbiq.org>'; Terri Cameron
Subject: RE: selective/elective questions


we have a somewhat similar situation in our 4th year; I think it makes sense to list those 2-4 week elective/selective rotations as clerkships within the parent block, since despite the differences, they seem more (in terms of actual activity) like miniature clerkships than anything else.

Terri, does that make sense in terms of your reporting for 4th year activities? Or is there a better aligned approach?

Sascha Benjamin Cohen
Director, Technology Strategy & Development
Technology Enhanced Education
UCSF School of Medicine

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From: Ciimplementer [ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org>] on behalf of Chen, Ye (yc5x) [yc5x at eservices.virginia.edu<mailto:yc5x at eservices.virginia.edu>]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:23 AM
To: 'ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:'ciimplementer at medbiq.org>'; Terri Cameron
Subject: [Ciimplementer] selective/elective questions

Terri & all others,

I have a question need to be clarified.  In our third years, it is our clerkship year.  I set up the sequence block with clerkship model.

My problem is our fourth year classes. They are all selectives.
 Selectives  are 2-4 week clinical rotations.  Students in a subdivison of
medicine working in the inpatient or outpatient setting learning while
taking care of real patients.

We have hundreds of these selectives. Each of them either 2 weeks or 4 weeks. Students require to choose at least 40 weeks selectives.

Each selective will be nested blocks of the parent block since they are selectives. The parent block will be something like this
<SequenceBlock id='12' required='Required' order='Undorder' minimum=10> then it includes block reference to those selective blocks.

My question is each selective block, should it be considered Clerkship that I should add


In the block?



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