[Ciimplementer] event duration

Masters, Susan Susan.Masters at ucsf.edu
Tue Jan 28 16:45:38 UTC 2014


Because the UCSF Ilios calendar is the lifeline for first- and second-year
students' and their faculty knowing when and where they are supposed to
be, we do include these events in our curriculum map. We assign them zero
time because we are also using Ilios to track formal curricular time. As
Terri says, you can go either way, depending on your needs.


Susan Masters, Ph.D.
Associate Dean for Curriculum
Undergraduate Medical EducationUCSF School of MedicineS-221, Box 0410
Phone: 415-476-2346
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On 1/28/14 8:35 AM, "Terri Cameron" <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:

>Thanks very much for the question. I was waiting to see who else might
>respond, but, in the meantime, I will just say that this is up to each
>school. If you want to show that your calendar for the students includes
>this time, you can show the duration you include in the calendar, which
>is the faculty expectation of the amount of time most students will spend
>in these activities. If adding this time would inflate your hours, and
>the activities are meant to be done solely on 'student time' outside of
>scheduled hours, you may wish to show zero if you are concerned about
>inflating your hours.
>From an AAMC standpoint, it would be useful to be able to report on the
>amount of time schools schedule for students for self-study and
>self-directed learning, but the decision rests with the schools to
>determine how they want the instructional hours for their curricula to be
>Hope that helps! 
>Terri Cameron, MA
>Director of Curriculum Programs
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf
>Of Benjamin Williams
>Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:50 PM
>To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
>Cc: Lori Troy
>Subject: [Ciimplementer] event duration
>I have a question about the intent of the required event duration.
>I see that the xml schema permits 0 minutes to be entered, and in fact
>the UCSF xml sample file actually includes  about 15 events with 0
>minutes listed (e.g. "Reading Day").
>We are wondering what to do with some of our independent study events,
>which we have not formally scheduled with a specific duration.   Do we
>use an estimated time, or just use 0?
>Ben Williams
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