From ctoth at medschool.pitt.edu  Thu Jan  9 16:18:29 2014
From: ctoth at medschool.pitt.edu (Toth, Christopher M)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:18:29 -0500
Subject: [Ciimplementer] CompetencyObject specification question
Message-ID: <724602058D6EE44AB0FB6657C742CAD31B4DD068DD@PITT-EXCH-11.univ.pitt.edu>

Hi,

I have a question related to the CI CompetencyObject specification.  Under CompetencyObject, there is an element in the lom namespace called <lom:entry>.   The element contains a URI.  The example I am looking at looks like this:  "<lom:entry>http://ucsf.edu/program_objective/5793</lom:entry>"

What is this a reference to and how does this construct work?  In the example above, is this a webservice that spits out  a vocabulary entry?  Or is this just some type of custom, internal reference library?

Thanks,
Chris Toth
University of Pittsburgh, School of Medicine

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From skroyer at e-value.net  Thu Jan  9 16:27:23 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:27:23 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] CompetencyObject specification question
Message-ID: <CEF428C9.26BB6%skroyer@e-value.net>

Hi Chris,

That is a construct of your own choosing that serves as a unique identifier for whatever piece of data that LOM element is identifying.  You simply use your domain name followed by a path that includes information about the type of id and the actual id. In an ideal world, the URI would resolve to the resource that it identifies, but for the purposes of this exercise, I believe it is enough that it simply serves as a unique ID.

An E*Value version might look something like: http://www.e-value.net/Medbiquitous/Objects/Competency/90078054<http://www.e-value.net/objective/90078054>.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | www.e-value.net<http://www.e-value.net/>



From: <Toth>, Christopher M <ctoth at medschool.pitt.edu<mailto:ctoth at medschool.pitt.edu>>
Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM
To: "ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>" <ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>>
Subject: [Ciimplementer] CompetencyObject specification question

Hi,

I have a question related to the CI CompetencyObject specification.  Under CompetencyObject, there is an element in the lom namespace called <lom:entry>.   The element contains a URI.  The example I am looking at looks like this:  ?<lom:entry>http://ucsf.edu/program_objective/5793</lom:entry>?

What is this a reference to and how does this construct work?  In the example above, is this a webservice that spits out  a vocabulary entry?  Or is this just some type of custom, internal reference library?

Thanks,
Chris Toth
University of Pittsburgh, School of Medicine



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From vsmothers at jhmi.edu  Thu Jan  9 16:32:18 2014
From: vsmothers at jhmi.edu (Valerie Smothers)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:32:18 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] CompetencyObject specification question
In-Reply-To: <724602058D6EE44AB0FB6657C742CAD31B4DD068DD@PITT-EXCH-11.univ.pitt.edu>
References: <724602058D6EE44AB0FB6657C742CAD31B4DD068DD@PITT-EXCH-11.univ.pitt.edu>
Message-ID: <A3BED9ACCAC5444A9ACEE96DE24269FB798739BE@JHEMTMWEX2.win.ad.jhu.edu>

Hi, Chris.

LOM identifiers have two parts - the catalog and the entry. The LOM identifier is used in the Competency Object spec to create a unique URI identifier for the competency. This identifier can then be used for referencing the competency within a competency framework, curriculum, and many other places.

To upload data to the Curriculum Inventory, you will need to create a URI for each Pitt competency, learning objective, program objective, goal, or other expectation you are including in the Curriculum Inventory document you send. We usually recommend starting with your school's domain name (ie pitt.edu) and appending that.

You may want to look at the Competency Object spec for an example: http://medbiq.org/sites/default/files/CompetencyObjectSpecification.pdf

Best,
Valerie

From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf Of Toth, Christopher M
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:18 AM
To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: [Ciimplementer] CompetencyObject specification question

Hi,

I have a question related to the CI CompetencyObject specification.  Under CompetencyObject, there is an element in the lom namespace called <lom:entry>.   The element contains a URI.  The example I am looking at looks like this:  "<lom:entry>http://ucsf.edu/program_objective/5793</lom:entry<http://ucsf.edu/program_objective/5793%3c/lom:entry>>"

What is this a reference to and how does this construct work?  In the example above, is this a webservice that spits out  a vocabulary entry?  Or is this just some type of custom, internal reference library?

Thanks,
Chris Toth
University of Pittsburgh, School of Medicine

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From Victoria.Cannon at osumc.edu  Thu Jan  9 19:00:51 2014
From: Victoria.Cannon at osumc.edu (Cannon, Victoria)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:00:51 -0500
Subject: [Ciimplementer] AAMC contact
Message-ID: <9D6A52275061274B8ED422D3D84745B70EECDF67FE@EXMBOX-VP02.OSUMC.EDU>

Hi Sean,

Terri Cameron (tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>) is my AAMC contact and can help you figure out how you can start working with them as a vendor.

It was great seeing you today!
Victoria

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Victoria Cannon
Director
College of Medicine Office of Evaluation, Curriculum Research & Development
205 Meiling Hall, 370 W. 9th Avenue, Columbus, OH 43210
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victoria.cannon at osumc.edu<mailto:victoria.cannon at osumc.edu>

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From hagemanh at wusm.wustl.edu  Thu Jan 16 18:03:16 2014
From: hagemanh at wusm.wustl.edu (Hageman, Heather)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:03:16 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] mapping keywords in the curriculum
Message-ID: <4F5178493736B949BD7ABFF4A5D85AE23EA0ABE4@CITEMB2D.cits.wustl.edu>

Hello -

We are well underway mapping the Medbiquitous terms for instructional methods, assessment methods and resource types to our educational sessions.  Now we are at a critical decision point regarding keywords and would like to draw upon the experience of this community.

If you have the time, would you be so kind as to let me know the following if you are mapping keywords consistently across  your curriculum:

1.       Which standardized vocabulary are you using, for how long have you been using it, and are you satisfied with its use?

2.       What percent of your curriculum is tagged with keywords?

3.       Who does the mapping - course master, individual faculty, students, librarian, curriculum office, other?

4.       What sort of reports are you running off your mapping and would you share an example with me?

5.       What curriculum management system are you using?

Thank you in advance for your time -
Heather

___________________
Heather Hageman, MBA
    Director of Educational Planning
        and Program Assessment
    Director, Standardized Patient Program
Office of Education
Washington University School of Medicine
660 S. Euclid Ave, Box 8073
St. Louis, Missouri 63110
314-362-5433
314-367-6666 (fax)
hagemanh at wusm.wustl.edu


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From Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu  Thu Jan 16 21:06:54 2014
From: Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu (Cohen, Sascha)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:06:54 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] mapping keywords in the curriculum
In-Reply-To: <4F5178493736B949BD7ABFF4A5D85AE23EA0ABE4@CITEMB2D.cits.wustl.edu>
References: <4F5178493736B949BD7ABFF4A5D85AE23EA0ABE4@CITEMB2D.cits.wustl.edu>
Message-ID: <AE5AE5632CA60C43845B2DB629B40AF32966928D@ex10.net.ucsf.edu>

Hi Heather ---


1.       Which standardized vocabulary are you using, for how long have you been using it, and are you satisfied with its use?

a.       We use MeSH, and have been for a decade or more. We are pretty satisfied to date. We also use a customized "topics" list based on our key (post-discipline) areas of focus.

2.       What percent of your curriculum is tagged with keywords?

a.       Very near 100%.

3.       Who does the mapping - course master, individual faculty, students, librarian, curriculum office, other?

a.       Primarily a mix of faculty and course administrators.

4.       What sort of reports are you running off your mapping and would you share an example with me?

a.       If you are interested in samples of our reporting, I recommend you contact our Technology Enabled Learning office at iROCKET at medsch.ucsf.edu<mailto:iROCKET at medsch.ucsf.edu> to discuss it further.

5.       What curriculum management system are you using?

a.       We use Ilios (https://iliosproject.org).

Hope that helps!


Sascha Benjamin Cohen
Director of Strategic Development for Ilios
UCSF School of Medicine
sascha.cohen at ucsf.edu<mailto:sascha.cohen at ucsf.edu>

415.704.4521 vox
http://curriculum.ucsf.edu
http://www.iliiosproject.org



From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf Of Hageman, Heather
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:03 AM
To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: [Ciimplementer] mapping keywords in the curriculum

Hello -

We are well underway mapping the Medbiquitous terms for instructional methods, assessment methods and resource types to our educational sessions.  Now we are at a critical decision point regarding keywords and would like to draw upon the experience of this community.

If you have the time, would you be so kind as to let me know the following if you are mapping keywords consistently across  your curriculum:

1.       Which standardized vocabulary are you using, for how long have you been using it, and are you satisfied with its use?

2.       What percent of your curriculum is tagged with keywords?

3.       Who does the mapping - course master, individual faculty, students, librarian, curriculum office, other?

4.       What sort of reports are you running off your mapping and would you share an example with me?

5.       What curriculum management system are you using?

Thank you in advance for your time -
Heather

___________________
Heather Hageman, MBA
    Director of Educational Planning
        and Program Assessment
    Director, Standardized Patient Program
Office of Education
Washington University School of Medicine
660 S. Euclid Ave, Box 8073
St. Louis, Missouri 63110
314-362-5433
314-367-6666 (fax)
hagemanh at wusm.wustl.edu<mailto:hagemanh at wusm.wustl.edu>


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From Megan.Thompson at osumc.edu  Fri Jan 17 17:43:09 2014
From: Megan.Thompson at osumc.edu (Thompson, Megan)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:43:09 -0500
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Add to Mailing List
Message-ID: <9CE0C99571F15945983B363F267A8E3C0B1346FC61@EXMBOX-VP05.OSUMC.EDU>

Hello,

Could I please be added to this mailing list.

Thank You,

Megan Thompson

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Systems Specialist
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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 23 16:36:08 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:36:08 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Advice on competency mapping for CI?
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54A67C2@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

We have a school with questions about how event, sequence block, and program objectives/competencies are reported in the Event Details section of the CI Report.  Although they have followed the XML structure for competency referencing,  values are appearing in the "Physician Competencies Reference Set (PCRS)" column of the report, but not in the Event Objectives, SB Objectives, or Program Objectives/Competencies columns.

Did anyone else encounter this problem and figure out how to resolve it?

Thanks!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


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From skroyer at e-value.net  Thu Jan 23 16:59:12 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:59:12 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Advice on competency mapping for CI?
Message-ID: <CF06A449.298B8%skroyer@e-value.net>

I have not encountered that, but it sounds to me like it might result from either missing relationships in the competency framework section or incorrect category values on the competency objects. That?s just my best guess without seeing the xml.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net<http://www.e-value.net/>



From: Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>>
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 at 10:36 AM
To: "ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>" <ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>>
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Advice on competency mapping for CI?

We have a school with questions about how event, sequence block, and program objectives/competencies are reported in the Event Details section of the CI Report.  Although they have followed the XML structure for competency referencing,  values are appearing in the ?Physician Competencies Reference Set (PCRS)? column of the report, but not in the Event Objectives, SB Objectives, or Program Objectives/Competencies columns.

Did anyone else encounter this problem and figure out how to resolve it?

Thanks!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 23 18:42:25 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:42:25 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54A6CD6@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

We have several new CI Implementers who are just starting their efforts to develop uploads to the CI, and are really under the gun with the February 10 deadline looming. It would be really helpful if all of you experts could share your top 10 tips and/or Best Practices that you wish you had known when you started working with the CI upload process. This will also be great information as we begin our evaluation of the CI Standard next month.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


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From rivest at oakland.edu  Thu Jan 23 20:29:27 2014
From: rivest at oakland.edu (Robin Rivest)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:29:27 -0500
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
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Here is my list.  I hope it's helpful.  I do not have 10 at the moment,
only 3.

 *Top 3 CI Upload Tips*



1.     When I did the data import from an excel template into the software,
the first instructional method listed in the template populated the Primary
Instructional Method data field, which lead to some rework.

2.     Start uploading the data in small chunks iteratively before trying
to make sure the data is perfect in your software.  Rather than run
software reports and tweak the data, seeking perfection, upload what you
have, run the Data Validation Report, and make all of the changes one time.

3.     Within the Data Validation Report do the following: verify data
completion and data accuracy.  Check the total numbers against what?s in
your software.  Likewise, check the total numbers under Instructional
Methods Summary against what?s listed in the Assessment Methods Summary
within the report.  Also, do a line-by-line scan of all of the data fields
in the report to be sure it?s populating all of the associated data fields.



On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:

>  We have several new CI Implementers who are just starting their efforts
> to develop uploads to the CI, and are really under the gun with the
> February 10 deadline looming. It would be really helpful if all of you
> experts could share your top 10 tips and/or Best Practices that you wish
> you had known when you started working with the CI upload process. This
> will also be great information as we begin our evaluation of the CI
> Standard next month.
>
>
>
> Thanks for anything you can share!
>
>
>
> Terri
>
>
>
> *Terri Cameron, MA*
> Director of Curriculum Programs
> Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)
>
> *Association of American Medical Colleges*
> 2450 N Street, N.W.
> Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
> *T* (217) 891-2076 *F* (202) 828-0659
> *E*  tcameron at aamc.org
> www.aamc.org/medaps
>
>
> *Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?*
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ciimplementer mailing list
> Ciimplementer at medbiq.org
> http://medbiq.org/mailman/listinfo/ciimplementer_medbiq.org
>
>


-- 
Regards,

Robin Rivest, M.Ed., MBA
Director of Curriculum Data Management

Oakland University William Beaumont School of Medicine
2200 North Squirrel Road
127 O'Dowd Hall
Rochester, MI  48309-4401
phone: (248) 370-4859
rivest at oakland.edu
http://www.oakland.edu/medicine
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From skroyer at e-value.net  Thu Jan 23 21:28:54 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:28:54 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
Message-ID: <CF06E341.299C8%skroyer@e-value.net>

Hello,

I would hesitate to call anything in the attached document a ?Best Practice? without another year of experience with it under my belt, but I am attaching some documentation I put together to help to demystify using the webservice to do your upload. While using SOAPUI is well documented, translating what SOAPUI is doing to a programmatic solution involves a fair amount of digging and trial and error. This document attempts to eliminate some of that.

Corrections and clarifications are welcome.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net<http://www.e-value.net/>



From: Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>>
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM
To: "ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>" <ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>>
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!

We have several new CI Implementers who are just starting their efforts to develop uploads to the CI, and are really under the gun with the February 10 deadline looming. It would be really helpful if all of you experts could share your top 10 tips and/or Best Practices that you wish you had known when you started working with the CI upload process. This will also be great information as we begin our evaluation of the CI Standard next month.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?





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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 23 21:53:10 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:53:10 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
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References: <CF06E341.299C8%skroyer@e-value.net>
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B8845@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Thanks very much, Scott. We will see what we can do to improve our documentation using your suggestions.  Our new vendors will be very grateful!

Just to clarify - the web service approach is being used by vendors who are adding functionality to their systems to upload to the CI from their systems. Schools who are producing files from their own systems or whose vendor system produces  a file for upload will use the CI School Portal and do not need to use web services.

Anyone who wishes to use web services needs to go through an onboarding process that requires signatures that, for med schools, often require University Board approval. Please contact me if you would like a copy of the Electronic Information Exchange Agreement necessary for web services access.

Thanks!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures(r)



From: Scott Kroyer [mailto:skroyer at e-value.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:29 PM
To: Terri Cameron; ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: Re: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!

Hello,

I would hesitate to call anything in the attached document a "Best Practice" without another year of experience with it under my belt, but I am attaching some documentation I put together to help to demystify using the webservice to do your upload. While using SOAPUI is well documented, translating what SOAPUI is doing to a programmatic solution involves a fair amount of digging and trial and error. This document attempts to eliminate some of that.

Corrections and clarifications are welcome.

Scott Kroyer - Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net<http://www.e-value.net/>





From: Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>>
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM
To: "ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>" <ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>>
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!

We have several new CI Implementers who are just starting their efforts to develop uploads to the CI, and are really under the gun with the February 10 deadline looming. It would be really helpful if all of you experts could share your top 10 tips and/or Best Practices that you wish you had known when you started working with the CI upload process. This will also be great information as we begin our evaluation of the CI Standard next month.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


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From Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu  Fri Jan 24 13:14:49 2014
From: Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu (Cohen, Sascha)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:14:49 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
In-Reply-To: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B8845@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
References: <CF06E341.299C8%skroyer@e-value.net>,
	<98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B8845@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
Message-ID: <AE5AE5632CA60C43845B2DB629B40AF32967A5C4@ex10.net.ucsf.edu>

I would concur with all the previous notes, and add that checking and validating the output for the report in the initial tables --- including titling, date ranges, cumulative hours, etc --- is key.

Not only iterative submission in chunks, but also frequent and repeated submission! I've been urging our folks here to model, submit, review, and refactor, and then repeat, as many times as possible until they have as close to what they want in the report as is feasible. This helps not only to provide training, a better understanding of the process overall, but also to highlight the strengths and weaknesses present in the current systems.

I would also add that while precision is always important, at this stage of the game none of us should let the perfect become the enemy of the good --- this becomes important when modeling issues such as clerkship presentations and other variable and/or complex sequence blocks which may wind up being imprecise in this first iteration. We (UCSF, and Ilios) are taking the approach of finding the most effective balance between data input, modeling, and presented output, and working with that balance. I expect that next year we will have significantly more robust tools with which to model and validate (and adapt) our data.



Sascha Benjamin Cohen
Director of Strategic Development for Ilios
UCSF School of Medicine
sascha.cohen at ucsf.edu<mailto:sascha.cohen at ucsf.edu>

415.704.4521 mobile
http://curriculum.ucsf.edu
________________________________
From: Ciimplementer [ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] on behalf of Terri Cameron [tcameron at aamc.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:53 PM
To: Scott Kroyer; ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: Re: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!

Thanks very much, Scott. We will see what we can do to improve our documentation using your suggestions.  Our new vendors will be very grateful!

Just to clarify ? the web service approach is being used by vendors who are adding functionality to their systems to upload to the CI from their systems. Schools who are producing files from their own systems or whose vendor system produces  a file for upload will use the CI School Portal and do not need to use web services.

Anyone who wishes to use web services needs to go through an onboarding process that requires signatures that, for med schools, often require University Board approval. Please contact me if you would like a copy of the Electronic Information Exchange Agreement necessary for web services access.

Thanks!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?



From: Scott Kroyer [mailto:skroyer at e-value.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:29 PM
To: Terri Cameron; ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: Re: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!

Hello,

I would hesitate to call anything in the attached document a ?Best Practice? without another year of experience with it under my belt, but I am attaching some documentation I put together to help to demystify using the webservice to do your upload. While using SOAPUI is well documented, translating what SOAPUI is doing to a programmatic solution involves a fair amount of digging and trial and error. This document attempts to eliminate some of that.

Corrections and clarifications are welcome.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net<http://www.e-value.net/>





From: Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>>
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM
To: "ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>" <ciimplementer at medbiq.org<mailto:ciimplementer at medbiq.org>>
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!

We have several new CI Implementers who are just starting their efforts to develop uploads to the CI, and are really under the gun with the February 10 deadline looming. It would be really helpful if all of you experts could share your top 10 tips and/or Best Practices that you wish you had known when you started working with the CI upload process. This will also be great information as we begin our evaluation of the CI Standard next month.

Thanks for anything you can share!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>
www.aamc.org/medaps<http://www.aamc.org/medaps>


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From skroyer at e-value.net  Fri Jan 24 13:54:19 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:54:19 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
Message-ID: <7E26B7A6-D16D-4F63-8649-D73B32DE8535@ascendlearning.com>

Hello,

Can anyone confirm for me whether The date ranges for each phase/training year are derived from the sequence block dates that are associated with each phase?

Also, are people uploading all offered dates for courses, or just representative instances for each type of course?

Thanks!
--
Scott Kroyer - Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net


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From paul at schillingconsulting.com  Fri Jan 24 14:44:20 2014
From: paul at schillingconsulting.com (Paul Schilling)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:44:20 -0600
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
In-Reply-To: <AE5AE5632CA60C43845B2DB629B40AF32967A5C4@ex10.net.ucsf.edu>
References: <CF06E341.299C8%skroyer@e-value.net>,
	<98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B8845@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
	<AE5AE5632CA60C43845B2DB629B40AF32967A5C4@ex10.net.ucsf.edu>
Message-ID: <3BA931F8-2D25-409F-8442-D51BFFB1530A@schillingconsulting.com>

Our recommendations/best practices have been very similar to this.  Start by uploading just a single course so you can really dig in to the results of the CI report without being overwhelmed.  If you see problems review your setup and determine the cause.  Then carry that over to the other courses since they likely have similar issues.  Once you are good with that course try a few more or a course from a different student level.  Repeating that process makes dealing with problems much more manageable than getting a 1000 page report (with less than helpful lists of program objectives and PCRS as I am guessing most schools are finding).

I also agree with Sascha's last point.  Take on what you can get done this year.  If that is just getting school objectives in and linked to PCRS get that done.  Then look at projects that can be done in a reasonable amount of time.  For example M1 course objectives, or maybe fall semester of M1.  Don't focus so much on the 12-13 data that it takes away from your ability to make the 13-14 year's data better.


On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Cohen, Sascha <Sascha.Cohen at ucsf.edu> wrote:

> I would concur with all the previous notes, and add that checking and validating the output for the report in the initial tables --- including titling, date ranges, cumulative hours, etc --- is key.
> 
> Not only iterative submission in chunks, but also frequent and repeated submission! I've been urging our folks here to model, submit, review, and refactor, and then repeat, as many times as possible until they have as close to what they want in the report as is feasible. This helps not only to provide training, a better understanding of the process overall, but also to highlight the strengths and weaknesses present in the current systems.
> 
> I would also add that while precision is always important, at this stage of the game none of us should let the perfect become the enemy of the good --- this becomes important when modeling issues such as clerkship presentations and other variable and/or complex sequence blocks which may wind up being imprecise in this first iteration. We (UCSF, and Ilios) are taking the approach of finding the most effective balance between data input, modeling, and presented output, and working with that balance. I expect that next year we will have significantly more robust tools with which to model and validate (and adapt) our data.
> 

--
Paul Schilling
Schilling Consulting LLC
paul at schillingconsulting.com
Phone: 1.608.628.6313
Fax: 1.888.696.8405






From paul at schillingconsulting.com  Fri Jan 24 14:59:49 2014
From: paul at schillingconsulting.com (Paul Schilling)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:59:49 -0600
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
In-Reply-To: <7E26B7A6-D16D-4F63-8649-D73B32DE8535@ascendlearning.com>
References: <7E26B7A6-D16D-4F63-8649-D73B32DE8535@ascendlearning.com>
Message-ID: <D763DE93-83DF-43BF-8B9A-B99238221938@schillingconsulting.com>

On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Scott Kroyer <skroyer at e-value.net> wrote:

> Also, are people uploading all offered dates for courses, or just representative instances for each type of course?

Are you meaning for something like in clerkship years?  We are supposed to set the sequence block start date to the first start date offered, the end date to the last end date offered and the weeks to the number of weeks the course is.  If it is offered for different lengths then it would be to what most students do (although that would really only be for electives).  So it is a representative instance not all possible options.

--
Paul Schilling
Schilling Consulting LLC
paul at schillingconsulting.com
Phone: 1.608.628.6313
Fax: 1.888.696.8405






From tcameron at aamc.org  Fri Jan 24 15:52:28 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:52:28 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
In-Reply-To: <7E26B7A6-D16D-4F63-8649-D73B32DE8535@ascendlearning.com>
References: <7E26B7A6-D16D-4F63-8649-D73B32DE8535@ascendlearning.com>
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B9373@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Hi, Scott. Since we did not include Academic Level start and end dates as a data elements in the CI Standard, AAMC is creating those dates by finding the earliest start date for any sequence block that references the academic level as the AL start date, and the latest end date for any SB that references the academic level as the AL end date.

For clerkships, we ask that you show the SB start and end dates for the period in which the clerkship is offered, and then use duration (5 days = 1 week) to show the length of a single iteration. The AL start and end dates for clerkships are then determined based on the earliest clerkship start date and latest clerkship end date.

AAMC would like one iteration of each course uploaded, or that you use Nested Sequence Blocks to show all iterations and use the minimum and maximum elements to show that students are required to take only one iteration.  

Thanks for the question, and please let me know if I can provide additional information.

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E? tcameron at aamc.org
www.aamc.org/medaps
?
Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?


-----Original Message-----
From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kroyer
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:54 AM
To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?

Hello,

Can anyone confirm for me whether The date ranges for each phase/training year are derived from the sequence block dates that are associated with each phase?

Also, are people uploading all offered dates for courses, or just representative instances for each type of course?

Thanks!
--
Scott Kroyer - Software Development Manager & Architect E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net


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From jason at one45.com  Fri Jan 24 16:52:11 2014
From: jason at one45.com (Jason Ladicos)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:52:11 -0800
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Please share tips and best practices!
Message-ID: <EB27A9DB-BA2E-4F0E-A260-64083A92BD24@one45.com>

I think these are common sense, but here are some of the things we?ve done that have helped us work through the process with our clients:

1. Set up automated code tests that validate the XML we produce against the XSD documents
- also set up tests rules from the business rules document
- this is much faster than submitting eta multiple times, and allowed us to work with fragments and sample files effectively

2. Be really clear on the ?bare minimum? requirements for reporting. Share those rules with your clients. Some of the rules that have come up again and again when working on the reports include:
- a ?course" can only be reported if it has at least one ?valid? ?session"
- a session/event can only be reported if it has at least one instructional OR assessment method
- a session can only be reported if we can report timing
- a session may have multiple instructional or assessment methods, but if it?s an instructional session, only one method can be primary
- all assessment methods must be marked as formative or summative
- all clerkships must have a number of weeks associated with them

3. Put together a checklist of any/all work that needs to happen to get the curriculum data into shape.
- once we got the process down, it became significantly easier to ensure we were setting things up in a way that would facilitate the reporting.
Cheers,
Jason
Jason Ladicos
Product Manager
one45 Software
3rd Floor - 509 Richard Street Vancouver, BC V6B 2Z6
(604) 229-0482 | jason at one45.com | www.one45.com

  



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From skroyer at e-value.net  Fri Jan 24 23:15:38 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:15:38 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
In-Reply-To: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B9373@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
References: <7E26B7A6-D16D-4F63-8649-D73B32DE8535@ascendlearning.com>
	<98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B9373@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
Message-ID: <CF084F50.29DE7%skroyer@e-value.net>

Thanks Terri and Paul!

Most of that confirmed my understanding, and I now have a clearer
understanding of how you are determining which clerkships are longitudinal.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net <http://www.e-value.net/>






On 1/24/14, 9:52 AM, "Terri Cameron" <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:

>Hi, Scott. Since we did not include Academic Level start and end dates as
>a data elements in the CI Standard, AAMC is creating those dates by
>finding the earliest start date for any sequence block that references
>the academic level as the AL start date, and the latest end date for any
>SB that references the academic level as the AL end date.
>
>For clerkships, we ask that you show the SB start and end dates for the
>period in which the clerkship is offered, and then use duration (5 days =
>1 week) to show the length of a single iteration. The AL start and end
>dates for clerkships are then determined based on the earliest clerkship
>start date and latest clerkship end date.
>
>AAMC would like one iteration of each course uploaded, or that you use
>Nested Sequence Blocks to show all iterations and use the minimum and
>maximum elements to show that students are required to take only one
>iteration.  
>
>Thanks for the question, and please let me know if I can provide
>additional information.
>
>Terri
>
>Terri Cameron, MA
>Director of Curriculum Programs
>Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)
>
>Association of American Medical Colleges
>2450 N Street, N.W.
>Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
>T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
>E  tcameron at aamc.org
>www.aamc.org/medaps
> 
>Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf
>Of Scott Kroyer
>Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:54 AM
>To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
>Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
>
>Hello,
>
>Can anyone confirm for me whether The date ranges for each phase/training
>year are derived from the sequence block dates that are associated with
>each phase?
>
>Also, are people uploading all offered dates for courses, or just
>representative instances for each type of course?
>
>Thanks!
>--
>Scott Kroyer - Software Development Manager & Architect E*Value
>Healthcare Education Solutions
>10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN d 612-877-4589 | m
>612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net
>
>
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>e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
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From tcameron at aamc.org  Fri Jan 24 23:45:43 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:45:43 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
In-Reply-To: <CF084F50.29DE7%skroyer@e-value.net>
References: <CF084F50.29DE7%skroyer@e-value.net>
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54B9CFE@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Great!

Terri



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kroyer [skroyer at e-value.net<mailto:skroyer at e-value.net>]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Terri Cameron; ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: Re: Best practices - phases and dates?


Thanks Terri and Paul!

Most of that confirmed my understanding, and I now have a clearer
understanding of how you are determining which clerkships are longitudinal.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net <http://www.e-value.net/>






On 1/24/14, 9:52 AM, "Terri Cameron" <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:

>Hi, Scott. Since we did not include Academic Level start and end dates as
>a data elements in the CI Standard, AAMC is creating those dates by
>finding the earliest start date for any sequence block that references
>the academic level as the AL start date, and the latest end date for any
>SB that references the academic level as the AL end date.
>
>For clerkships, we ask that you show the SB start and end dates for the
>period in which the clerkship is offered, and then use duration (5 days =
>1 week) to show the length of a single iteration. The AL start and end
>dates for clerkships are then determined based on the earliest clerkship
>start date and latest clerkship end date.
>
>AAMC would like one iteration of each course uploaded, or that you use
>Nested Sequence Blocks to show all iterations and use the minimum and
>maximum elements to show that students are required to take only one
>iteration.
>
>Thanks for the question, and please let me know if I can provide
>additional information.
>
>Terri
>
>Terri Cameron, MA
>Director of Curriculum Programs
>Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)
>
>Association of American Medical Colleges
>2450 N Street, N.W.
>Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
>T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
>E  tcameron at aamc.org
>www.aamc.org/medaps
>
>Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Of Scott Kroyer
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>To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
>Subject: [Ciimplementer] Best practices - phases and dates?
>
>Hello,
>
>Can anyone confirm for me whether The date ranges for each phase/training
>year are derived from the sequence block dates that are associated with
>each phase?
>
>Also, are people uploading all offered dates for courses, or just
>representative instances for each type of course?
>
>Thanks!
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From bdwillms at life.illinois.edu  Mon Jan 27 20:49:41 2014
From: bdwillms at life.illinois.edu (Benjamin Williams)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:49:41 -0600
Subject: [Ciimplementer] event duration
Message-ID: <57864A82-0575-4D46-99E2-4F7348C026FF@life.illinois.edu>

I have a question about the intent of the required event duration.

I see that the xml schema permits 0 minutes to be entered, and in fact the UCSF xml sample file actually includes  about 15 events with 0 minutes listed (e.g. "Reading Day").

We are wondering what to do with some of our independent study events, which we have not formally scheduled with a specific duration.   Do we use an estimated time, or just use 0?

Thanks,
Ben Williams


From tcameron at aamc.org  Tue Jan 28 16:35:17 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:35:17 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] event duration
In-Reply-To: <57864A82-0575-4D46-99E2-4F7348C026FF@life.illinois.edu>
References: <57864A82-0575-4D46-99E2-4F7348C026FF@life.illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BD099@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Thanks very much for the question. I was waiting to see who else might respond, but, in the meantime, I will just say that this is up to each school. If you want to show that your calendar for the students includes this time, you can show the duration you include in the calendar, which is the faculty expectation of the amount of time most students will spend in these activities. If adding this time would inflate your hours, and the activities are meant to be done solely on 'student time' outside of scheduled hours, you may wish to show zero if you are concerned about inflating your hours.

>From an AAMC standpoint, it would be useful to be able to report on the amount of time schools schedule for students for self-study and self-directed learning, but the decision rests with the schools to determine how they want the instructional hours for their curricula to be reported.

Hope that helps! 

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Williams
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:50 PM
To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Cc: Lori Troy
Subject: [Ciimplementer] event duration

I have a question about the intent of the required event duration.

I see that the xml schema permits 0 minutes to be entered, and in fact the UCSF xml sample file actually includes  about 15 events with 0 minutes listed (e.g. "Reading Day").

We are wondering what to do with some of our independent study events, which we have not formally scheduled with a specific duration.   Do we use an estimated time, or just use 0?

Thanks,
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From Susan.Masters at ucsf.edu  Tue Jan 28 16:45:38 2014
From: Susan.Masters at ucsf.edu (Masters, Susan)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:45:38 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] event duration
In-Reply-To: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BD099@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
References: <57864A82-0575-4D46-99E2-4F7348C026FF@life.illinois.edu>
	<98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BD099@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
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Hello,

Because the UCSF Ilios calendar is the lifeline for first- and second-year
students' and their faculty knowing when and where they are supposed to
be, we do include these events in our curriculum map. We assign them zero
time because we are also using Ilios to track formal curricular time. As
Terri says, you can go either way, depending on your needs.

Susan

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Undergraduate Medical EducationUCSF School of MedicineS-221, Box 0410
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On 1/28/14 8:35 AM, "Terri Cameron" <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:

>Thanks very much for the question. I was waiting to see who else might
>respond, but, in the meantime, I will just say that this is up to each
>school. If you want to show that your calendar for the students includes
>this time, you can show the duration you include in the calendar, which
>is the faculty expectation of the amount of time most students will spend
>in these activities. If adding this time would inflate your hours, and
>the activities are meant to be done solely on 'student time' outside of
>scheduled hours, you may wish to show zero if you are concerned about
>inflating your hours.
>
>From an AAMC standpoint, it would be useful to be able to report on the
>amount of time schools schedule for students for self-study and
>self-directed learning, but the decision rests with the schools to
>determine how they want the instructional hours for their curricula to be
>reported.
>
>Hope that helps! 
>
>Terri
>
>Terri Cameron, MA
>Director of Curriculum Programs
>Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)
>
>Association of American Medical Colleges
>2450 N Street, N.W.
>Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
>T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
>E  tcameron at aamc.org
>www.aamc.org/medaps
> 
>Tomorrow's Doctors, Tomorrow's Cures?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf
>Of Benjamin Williams
>Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:50 PM
>To: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
>Cc: Lori Troy
>Subject: [Ciimplementer] event duration
>
>I have a question about the intent of the required event duration.
>
>I see that the xml schema permits 0 minutes to be entered, and in fact
>the UCSF xml sample file actually includes  about 15 events with 0
>minutes listed (e.g. "Reading Day").
>
>We are wondering what to do with some of our independent study events,
>which we have not formally scheduled with a specific duration.   Do we
>use an estimated time, or just use 0?
>
>Thanks,
>Ben Williams
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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 30 16:30:38 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:30:38 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Assistance with XML error
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFA26@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Hello, and thanks to everyone for all of your efforts with the CI. It's really exciting watching all those uploads come in!

We have a user who is receiving the following XML error:

Error: The submission cannot be processed because it does not comply with MedBiquitous CI standards. The submission has been rejected.<br>cvc-minLength-valid: Value '' with length = '0' is not facet-valid with respect to minLength '1' for type 'NonNullString'.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
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From skroyer at e-value.net  Thu Jan 30 16:40:20 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:40:20 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Assistance with XML error
In-Reply-To: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFA26@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
References: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFA26@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
Message-ID: <993E4A32-A549-420B-A04D-3842428C490E@ascendlearning.com>

The XML schema validator at corefiling.com<http://corefiling.com> will report the line and position of the problem -- it might even name the element.

--
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On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:30 AM, "Terri Cameron" <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>> wrote:

Hello, and thanks to everyone for all of your efforts with the CI. It?s really exciting watching all those uploads come in!

We have a user who is receiving the following XML error:

Error: The submission cannot be processed because it does not comply with MedBiquitous CI standards. The submission has been rejected.<br>cvc-minLength-valid: Value '' with length = '0' is not facet-valid with respect to minLength '1' for type 'NonNullString'.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>
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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 30 17:03:34 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:03:34 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog>
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFAC9@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Hello again! Thanks, Scott, for the quick response to the last question and for the tip re: XML validator.

While I spend all day answering questions and probably should be able to respond to this question, I never feel comfortable responding to actual XML questions without verifying my answers with experts, so I am hoping one of you can respond to this question:

What should <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog> point to?

Any other tips you would like to share with a new CI Implementer regarding Expectations and the Competency Framework?

Thanks very much!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
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T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
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From vsmothers at jhmi.edu  Thu Jan 30 17:05:24 2014
From: vsmothers at jhmi.edu (Valerie Smothers)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:05:24 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Assistance with XML error
In-Reply-To: <993E4A32-A549-420B-A04D-3842428C490E@ascendlearning.com>
References: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFA26@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
	<993E4A32-A549-420B-A04D-3842428C490E@ascendlearning.com>
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It means something is empty. Nonnullstring requires that elements have a value. Someone is trying to do something like this:

<ReportID/>

Or

<ReportID></ReportID>

Which is not valid (I don't know that it is the reportID element, but something is empty).

Valerie

From: Ciimplementer [mailto:ciimplementer-bounces at medbiq.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kroyer
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:40 AM
To: Terri Cameron
Cc: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: Re: [Ciimplementer] Assistance with XML error

The XML schema validator at corefiling.com<http://corefiling.com> will report the line and position of the problem -- it might even name the element.
--
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On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:30 AM, "Terri Cameron" <tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>> wrote:
Hello, and thanks to everyone for all of your efforts with the CI. It's really exciting watching all those uploads come in!

We have a user who is receiving the following XML error:

Error: The submission cannot be processed because it does not comply with MedBiquitous CI standards. The submission has been rejected.<br>cvc-minLength-valid: Value '' with length = '0' is not facet-valid with respect to minLength '1' for type 'NonNullString'.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E  tcameron at aamc.org<mailto:tcameron at aamc.org>
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From paul at schillingconsulting.com  Thu Jan 30 17:17:32 2014
From: paul at schillingconsulting.com (Paul Schilling)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:17:32 -0600
Subject: [Ciimplementer] <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog>
In-Reply-To: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFAC9@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
References: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFAC9@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
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On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:

> What should <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog> point to? 

From the Competency Framework Specification:

The following example shows an identifier for a competency definition that uses a URI cataloging scheme.

<Identifier>
  <Catalog>URI</Catalog> 
  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/competencies/kp87t</Entry>
</Identifier>



I think most of us are doing something like:

<Identifier>
  <Catalog>URI</Catalog> 
  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/objectives/school/0001</Entry>
</Identifier>

or 

<Identifier>
  <Catalog>URI</Catalog> 
  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/objectives/course/0123</Entry>
</Identifier>

The path doesn't have to resolve but needs to be unique.  I believe most implementations use the patch to give a hint as to what type of thing it is.  If all your IDs are unique you could just have:

<Identifier>
  <Catalog>URI</Catalog> 
  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/0001</Entry>
</Identifier>

<Identifier>
  <Catalog>URI</Catalog> 
  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/0123</Entry>
</Identifier>



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From skroyer at e-value.net  Thu Jan 30 17:35:44 2014
From: skroyer at e-value.net (Scott Kroyer)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:35:44 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog>
In-Reply-To: <AB81C368-0AC3-49F8-8545-8F720CCBC357@schillingconsulting.com>
References: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFAC9@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
	<AB81C368-0AC3-49F8-8545-8F720CCBC357@schillingconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CF0FE906.2BAE2%skroyer@e-value.net>

To briefly add to Paul?s response, if the original question was from the
angle of URI being a placeholder for some other value, it is not a
placeholder.

URI is a literal value and identifies the variable entry values as
belonging to a catalog of URIs.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect
E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN
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On 1/30/14, 11:17 AM, "Paul Schilling" <paul at schillingconsulting.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:
>
>> What should <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog> point to?
>
>From the Competency Framework Specification:
>
>The following example shows an identifier for a competency definition
>that uses a URI cataloging scheme.
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/competencies/kp87t</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>
>
>I think most of us are doing something like:
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/objectives/school/0001</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>or 
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/objectives/course/0123</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>The path doesn't have to resolve but needs to be unique.  I believe most
>implementations use the patch to give a hint as to what type of thing it
>is.  If all your IDs are unique you could just have:
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/0001</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/0123</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>
>
>--
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>Schilling Consulting LLC
>paul at schillingconsulting.com
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>Fax: 1.888.696.8405
>
>
>
>
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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 30 18:16:36 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:16:36 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog>
In-Reply-To: <CF0FE906.2BAE2%skroyer@e-value.net>
References: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFAC9@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>
	<AB81C368-0AC3-49F8-8545-8F720CCBC357@schillingconsulting.com>
	<CF0FE906.2BAE2%skroyer@e-value.net>
Message-ID: <98C5591D9F64D04EB4F7DAFEA7B153CB01D54BFD10@ADL4-EXMB-01.adm.aamc.org>

Thanks, Paul and Scott. This is great. I am gratified that I COULD have answered the question, after all, but I could not have included the additional insights that you two provided.

Thanks again!

Terri

Terri Cameron, MA
Director of Curriculum Programs
Medical Academic Performance Services (MedAPS)

Association of American Medical Colleges
2450 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1127
T (217) 891-2076 F (202) 828-0659
E? tcameron at aamc.org
www.aamc.org/medaps
?
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From: Scott Kroyer [mailto:skroyer at e-value.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:36 PM
To: Paul Schilling; Terri Cameron
Cc: ciimplementer at medbiq.org
Subject: Re: [Ciimplementer] <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog>

To briefly add to Paul?s response, if the original question was from the angle of URI being a placeholder for some other value, it is not a placeholder.

URI is a literal value and identifies the variable entry values as belonging to a catalog of URIs.

Scott Kroyer ? Software Development Manager & Architect E*Value Healthcare Education Solutions
10 Second Street NE, Suite 300 | Minneapolis, MN d 612-877-4589 | m 612-246-4936 | www.e-value.net <http://www.e-value.net/>






On 1/30/14, 11:17 AM, "Paul Schilling" <paul at schillingconsulting.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Terri Cameron <tcameron at aamc.org> wrote:
>
>> What should <lom:catalog>URI</lom:catalog> point to?
>
>From the Competency Framework Specification:
>
>The following example shows an identifier for a competency definition 
>that uses a URI cataloging scheme.
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/competencies/kp87t</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>
>
>I think most of us are doing something like:
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/objectives/school/0001</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>or
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/objectives/course/0123</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>The path doesn't have to resolve but needs to be unique.  I believe 
>most implementations use the patch to give a hint as to what type of 
>thing it is.  If all your IDs are unique you could just have:
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/0001</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
><Identifier>
>  <Catalog>URI</Catalog>
>  <Entry>http://www.medschool.edu/ci/0123</Entry>
></Identifier>
>
>
>
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From tcameron at aamc.org  Thu Jan 30 18:35:52 2014
From: tcameron at aamc.org (Terri Cameron)
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:35:52 +0000
Subject: [Ciimplementer] Institution Information
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There have been several requests this week about some of the Institution fields in CI uploads. Here is information that may be helpful if you have not already found answers for these fields:


AAMC Institution ID: (This is the AAMC EIS Code. If you do not know your EIS Code, I can provide it for you.)

AAMC Institution Name: (There is not one correct answer - it's whatever you want to show as your school name in the Verification Report)

AAMC Program ID: (This is also up to you. Most schools are using 1, but, if you have multiple programs at your University, you might have multiple programs, and you can use that number if it makes more sense to you.)

AAMC Program Name: Most people are using M.D.; some are spelling out the School name and program; e.g., XXXXX University SOM UGME



If anyone else has additional guidance for these fields, please let us know!



Thanks again for all the hard work everyone is doing!



Terri


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